Comments on: More on Beer-Drinking Scientists: A Response to Dr. Grim

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

In spite of the fact that Chris taught a course in statistics (I have had some poor stats instructors), I can personally vouch for his abilities in the field.

It seems to me that the two of you are critiquing past each other. It is not yet a full dialog, merely a sequence of monologues.

I suggest that you, Chris, meet face to face with Dr. Grimm. (BTW, I will be in Prague in early August.)

By: Patricia Mercado

Patricia Mercado — Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I know Chris, and his knowledge, skills, and abilities, quite well. Advice from Dr. Grim to Chris Mack of “PLEASE, read some statistical textbook first” is embarrassing to Dr. Grim. Chris is one of the most well-respected, if not THE most well-respected, individual(s) in his field - and wile this is not specifically statistice, suffice to say Chris is knwoledgable of this field as well. And to alleviate any need for folks to inquire as to how I know of Chris' knowledge, skills, and abilities, we have been professional colleagues for years. Lets be thankful we have such a knowledgeable person and great mind amongst us.

Later,

Pat Mercado

By: John Doe

John Doe — Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Chris is taking the "half science" part of the study very seriously, and apparently disregarding the "half joke" part. I enjoyed the discussion when it was about the science half of a joking study, using it to illustrate some common stats errors/limitations. Now it just sounds mean and petty, and there's no fun in that.

I hope the parties can return to the original light-hearted discussion.

By: Chris Sallee

Chris Sallee — Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I suggest that a critical element of the discussion has actually been missing. I think you should both continue the discussion while drinking beer together, and that sooner or later you will find that you agree on almost everything, and the fun will return.

By: RS

RS — Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

You may be interested in these (both free online):
Sheil D., Wunder S., Jansen P., Bongers F. & Dudley R. 2008: Hope for Bohemian ecologists – comments on „ A possible role of social activity to explain differences in publication output among ecologists?” by Tomáš Grim, Oikos 2008.
Web Ecology 8: 103–105.

Moya-Larano J. 2008: A break to moderate drinkers. Web Ecology 8: 106–107.

By: MHunter

MHunter — Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I know that moderate beer drinking can even be useful and have people put on weight if necessary

By: birthday sms

birthday sms — Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

person (s) in your field – and this is not specifically cunning statistic, just say Chris is knwoledgable this field. And to alleviate any need for people to ask how I know Chris’ knowledge, skills and abilities, we have been colleagues for years. Let us be thankful we have a person with knowledge and great minds among us.